måndag 15 december 2008

QRZ och Logger32 de sm7cxi

Här är litet kring bråket om QRZ och Logger32
Det gäller i viss mån oxo EasyLog_
Man börjar vilja ha betalt för sitt arbete!


Plankat frå det slutliga svaret från K4CY /Bob Furzer, som är Logger32:s författare:

/Läs oxo i slutet om hur QRZ uppkom!!/
73 de
SM7CXI/Lasse

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In light of the blizzard of eMail on the reflector regarding QRZ.com , I sent the following message to Fred :

Have your ears been burning? There have been a vocal few whining on the Logger32 reflector ... Is it true? Are you really a 'money grabbing son of a bitch'? :) As I had occasion to once more address the matter of QRZ.com ver 2.0 on the HamLogger reflector, I copy you on the message. 73, Bob.

The following is the reply from Fred (which may shed some light on the motivations behind the changes) :

Bob,

No, not really. If my ears were burning, they would pale in comparison to my pants being on fire for the past week.

QRZ provides 100% free service to over 50,000 unique visitors per day. Think of a stadium full of people, all enjoying QRZ in exchange for the advertisements that are shown on the page. It's a real bargain.

Although Ham Radio is a hobby, it is supported by people for whom it isn't a hobby. The engineers at Icom, Kenwood, and Yaesu get a paycheck, as do the hundreds of other manufacturers, vendors, and suppliers that make this hobby possible. Just because QRZ doesn't come in a box with shiny knobs and buttons, doesn't mean that it doesn't have real value as an operating tool. The ire of those complaining on the reflector exists because QRZ is a valuable resource. It therefore should make perfect sense that having value, QRZ data is worth paying for.

QRZ isn't a hobby for me, although in the early days it was. I was laid off from my corporate job two years ago and since then, QRZ has been my only source of income. Also since then, I've worked very hard to make QRZ the best it can be, and I'm grateful that I have the engineering skills to add value and features. I doubt if many folks realize that even when I take a vacation that my laptop always goes with me because QRZ never sleeps, not ever, and there are some tasks that only I can perform. There are no holidays, either. I do definitely have to login and monitor QRZ 365 days a year.

When Logger32 first got it's exclusive interface, it was back in the 'hobby days' of QRZ. Now, we have over two thousand subscribers to the XML interface and it simply isn't fair to anybody to allow the the Logger32 port to continue. Not only that, it's an inferior implementation when compared to the XML data, and no longer worthy of the QRZ name.

Feel free to relay this to the reflector. I'm not the least bit ashamed of the contribution that I've made to Amateur Radio and would like people to know it.

-fred

Can we now close this thread,
73, Bob.

PS. To the Logger32 Beta testers, please disredard Freds comments about Yahoo, Icom, etc. engineers getting a paycheck. No, you're not getting a Christmas bonus or a payraise in the New Year :)

Här något om QRZ:s bakgrund :

How QRZ Was Founded
QRZ was founded in 1992 by Fred Lloyd, AA7BQ as a spinoff of what was once called the "Callsign Project", a cooperative effort designed to obtain and distribute FCC database tapes. The "Callsign Project" was born on the internet newsgroup rec.ham-radio (later rec.radio.amateur.misc), and it's initial sponsor was Rusty, Carruth, N7IKQ, who eventually turned it over to Fred when he became unable to continue the effort.

The "project" part of the callsign project consisted of obtaining the FCC data tapes and then making copies of it for distribution to other interested parties. Fred's first experience with the callsign project was largely uneventful since the total distribution consisted only of about 40 copies. At the time, each person requesting a copy of the database would send the Fred a blank tape along with $20 in an SASE. The $20 was to help to recover the cost of obtaining the data from the FCC, which at the time cost over $700 for the two large 9-track (12-inch) mainframe tape reels.

Soon, six months had gone by and again it became necessary to obtain a fresh set of FCC tapes. Tired of spending his spare time making tape copies, Fred began to wonder about CDROM - a new but emerging universal format. It didn't really seem possible since the cost of mastering a CDROM (about $2500) was prohibitive given the small number of potential internet customers from past experience.

Thinking 'outside the box', Fred began wondering if perhaps there might be an existing shareware CDROM already in publication that possibly had enough unused or spare space to accomodate the callsign data. At the time, the total size of the FCC database was only about 50 megabytes compressed, so it sounded like there might be a possibility.

With this in mind, Fred contacted a well known CDROM shareware publisher, Bob Bruce at the now defunct Walnut Creek CDROM, and popped the question: "Do you think you might have an existing CD with 50MB of free space available?". To Fred's surprise, Bob replied with "Why don't we just put together a Ham Radio CDROM? Just send us the material and we'll press it.". With this simple exchange on the phone, Fred started working on his first CDROM project. Shortly thereafter Fred decided on using the ham radio shorthand term QRZ as a name for the new product. It was short, catchy, and 100 percent ham radio!

Suddenly, worrying about how to keep the data as small as possible to fit on a shareware CDROM gave way to another, unexpeced problem: How were we going go fill up a 650 MB disc? Next, with the help of John Moore, NJ7E, a DOS-Based lookup program was developed (in about a week) and the QRZ database format was created.

To help fill up the disc, Fred went out to what could be called the old internet (the World Wide Web did not yet exist) and gathered every bit of ham radio shareware that could be found at the various FTP sites that existed at the time. He packaged this along with several years worth of ham radio newsgroup messages into a collection which was to become an integral part of the first edition of the QRZ CDROM.

Neither Fred nor Walnut Creek had any idea of how many of the new ham radio CDROM's would be sold. Walnut had printed 1000 copies of the new CD and privately Fred thought that this was probably a bit over-optimistic. After all, the last "callsign project" distribution had garnered only about 40 customers! Despite this, Fred jumped in and bought 100 copies anyway, probably because he liked seeing his name on the cover, and also because they just seemed like a cool product.

It took about 2 months to sell those initial 100 copies which went for $19.95 each. After that, the sales seemed to slow down quite a bit. At the time, to order a CD a potential customer had to first send a personal check by mail. Fred has always believed in hams and has always accepted their checks without first cashing them at the bank. It is perhaps a fine testament to amateur radio that of the hundreds of such checks that Fred has accepted, not one has ever bounced!

Meanwhile, unknown to Fred, back at Walnut Creek CDROM they were having a hard time keeping the new QRZ CDROM on the shelves. They were soon sold out of the first 1000 copies and had to order a second printing. Within a few months, the sales had topped the 5000 unit mark and Fred was now getting e-mail from new CDROM users from all around the world.

This activity generated a lot of excitement and soon Fred (a software engineer by profession), started to work on the second edition and a new Windows callsign program. Three years later Fred wrote the Windows 95 version of his program and QRZ became the first ham radio CDROM to ship with full 32-bit "designed for Windows 95" lookup software. During this same period the World Wide Web was born and on October 28, 1993, QRZ went online with http://www.qrz.com and a web based callsign lookup server. QRZ holds the distinction of being one of the first 5,000 websites in existence (there are many millions today).

Today, in the fall of 2005, 25 editions and over 250,000 copies of the QRZ Ham Radio CDROM have been sold worldwide and it has earned the title of the #1 bestselling amateur radio software product of all time. The QRZ CDROM has been used on all 7 continents (yes, including Antarctica) has been carried on the Space Shuttle, the MIR space station, and is in use today aboard the International Space Station.

QRZ remains a small business that is run by Fred and is housed in a spare room of his home. Fred still works his daytime job as a systems architect and web design consultant. Fred is extremely grateful for the support of the many friends that he has made on the internet and looks forward to making many more in the future.

And what do the letters QRZ stand for? Well, back in the days when radio telegraphy was widely used, QRZ was a shorthand code which meant "Who is Calling me?" It's still used today, even by voice operators during contests or when they simply didn't hear the complete call.

If you'd like to contact Fred by email, please write to flloyd@qrz.com .


Thanks for visiting the site and for your support, both past present and future.

73,
Fred Lloyd, AA7BQ

2 kommentarer:

Unknown sa...

när jag läste noga så förstod jag sammanhanget i det hela. Precis som Banker gör folk beroende av ett bank kort när det är etablerat så börjar man ta betalt för sina tjänster så och QRZ .com eller QRZ.$$$
Finns de som tjänar pengar på sina QSL också den värsta jag sett tills nu är HS0ZIB en engelsman i Phuket som vill ha 1000 Bath idag 235kr för ett qsl de ni !

SM7CXI / Lasse /LEA sa...

Otroligt!
MEN sant!!!
Det var tur att jag har QSL från HS0ZIE ! Hi!